THE PODCAST

Episode 6: Little Boy Blue

In Episode 6, hosts Susan Ackroyd and Lynda Beckingham venture into the turbulent reign of King Henry VIII as nursery rhymes take on a darker, sharper edge.

The episode unravels the hidden political satire behind Little Boy Blue. While it sounds like an innocent pastoral rhyme, it was actually a scathing jab at Cardinal Thomas Wolsey, the butcher's son who rose from humble origins to become Lord Chancellor of England and the second most powerful man in the kingdom. Susan and Lynda explore Wolsey's grand rise, his lavish lifestyle at Hampton Court, and the mockery he faced from nobles who believed he was "asleep on the job."

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Watch the full presentation from Hay-on-Wye, where Susan dives into the secret origins, royal scandals, and 600 years of hidden history buried inside classic nursery rhymes. Grab a cup of tea, settle in, and experience the talk right from the comfort of your own home!

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AUTHOR · SPEAKER · PODCAST HOST

The mystery and history behind the nursery rhymes we grew up with.

Susan Ackroyd uncovers the mystery, history and political intrigue hidden within traditional nursery rhymes.

Drawing on a lifelong passion for history, language and storytelling, her acclaimed book Rhyme & Reason, podcast and public talks invite readers to look beyond the familiar verses and discover the remarkable stories that may have inspired them.

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Small rhymes. Remarkable histories.

For generations, nursery rhymes have been passed from one voice to another. Their words are familiar, but the worlds behind them may contain royal rivalries, religious conflict, political satire, social commentary and fragments of everyday life.

Susan follows the clues through English history and invites us to look again at the verses we thought we knew.

Mystery

Where did these familiar words begin?

History

What was happening in the world
around them at that time?

Memory

Why have they remained with us for generations?

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THE BOOK

Discover Rhyme & Reason.

The rhymes may be short, but their histories are anything but simple.

In Rhyme & Reason, Susan Ackroyd explores the possible origins, historical settings and surprising interpretations connected with traditional nursery rhymes. Written for curious general readers, the book opens a doorway into English history through words many of us have known since childhood. Ideal for book lovers, history enthusiasts and anyone who has ever wondered where our nursery rhymes came from.

  • “Satire and metaphor, ancient politics and intrigue. Stimulating and thought-provoking. Food for our ageing brains!”

    — Enid (Campsie Probus Group)

EVENTS & SPEAKING

Discover Susan’s upcoming talks and appearances

Susan’s illustrated talks combine historical research, humour and the pleasure of recognising rhymes remembered from childhood.

Her presentations are ideal for libraries, U3A groups, Probus clubs, historical societies, book clubs, festivals and curious general audiences.

IN CONVERSATION

Interviews, articles and podcast appearances.

Susan has shared the stories behind Rhyme & Reason through radio interviews, newspaper articles, public conversations and live events.

ABC Radio interview with Susan Ackroyd about the history of nursery rhymes.
U3A logo representing Susan Ackroyd’s educational talks on nursery-rhyme history.
Probus logo representing Susan Ackroyd’s presentations on nursery-rhyme history.
ABC Radio Nightlife interview with Susan Ackroyd about the history of nursery rhymes.